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Separation of Church and State

6 Aug

Just because the constitution of the United States is not laced with Christian rhetoric, does not mean the authors values and virtues were are not based in Christianity. The first amendment of the Constitution states Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It simply states the Government has no say concerning the practice or belief in the religion of your choice and that the government cannot choose a national or state religion like England has.

Nowhere in any of our Nations literature does it state Christianity or religion if you like, is not allowed or not allowed in government. This in fact is a right guaranteed in the Constitution, it’s called religious freedom and it applies to those in government as well as the general population. Can you base a law on a religious belief? Not to my knowledge but the individual members of government yesterday and today use their belief systems to make decisions on our nations laws and policies and their belief systems for the most part include religion. Up until the past 30 years the religion most practiced in the US was Christianity so yes, most of our laws and the Constitution and the Deceleration of Independence and the Bill of Rights is based on Christian beliefs.

Religious Affiliation

# of
signers

% of
signers

Episcopalian/Anglican

32

57.1%

Congregationalist

13

23.2%

Presbyterian

12

21.4%

Quaker

2

3.6%

Unitarian or Universalist

2

3.6%

Catholic

1

1.8%

TOTAL

56

100%

there’s a reference in Article VII of the U.S. Constitution: “Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth.”

Anno Domini = AD, the period

The term Anno Domini is Medieval Latin, translated as In the year of the Lord,[9] and as in the year of our Lord.[10][11]:782 It is sometimes specified more fully as Anno Domini Nostri Iesu (Jesu) Christi (“In the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ”). This calendar era is based on the traditionally reckoned year of the conception or birth of Jesus of Nazareth, with AD counting years after the start of this epoch, and BC denoting years before the start of the epoch.

This has never been about whether or not religion should be in government but rather should government be in religion. Religious freedom is protecting religion from government and those that may try in some way to eliminate it. There are so many Christians (and other religious centers) in government today and yesterday that have made decisions based are their religious  beliefs; on their virtues, that I cannot understand how anyone could say religion is not in government. Religion is in the people of the government and you cannot separate that.

 

That book has everything to do with that document, the ones that wrote it were Christians, Bible Christians.  If you find it difficult to see religion in this world ask yourself “what is the date today”? Ok, it’s June 27th, 2012. So what happened 2012 years ago? Why does the entire world base their calendar on the fact today is June 27th, 2012.

 

The term AD is used to depict the period after Christ’s birth, AD is short for “Anno Domini”. The term Anno Domini is Medieval Latin, translated as In the year of the Lord, and as in the year of our Lord.  It is sometimes specified more fully as Anno Domini Nostri Iesu (Jesu) Christi (“In the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ”). This calendar era is based on the traditionally reckoned year of the conception or birth of Jesus of Nazareth, with AD counting years after the start of this epoch, and BC denoting years before the start of the epoch. (wiki)

 

You can shout into the wind all you like but something pretty big happened 2012 years back and people have “loosely” followed it ever since. There are many types of religion in this world but they all have a common thread. They all look to something greater than themselves and they all look to the better side of mans nature. If you’re trying to force religion out of government it’s only because it’s standing in the way of what you want and if removed – you could do as you please. Like it or not religion still brings out the better side of man’s nature.

The use if Religion and politics

6 Aug

I’ve been rethinking this keeping religion out of government and well, like it or not I agree. I considered the fact that most laws will reflect in some way on the bible. Nothing wrong with that, what we believe in is what we base our convictions on. Going a little further though if you actually take a look at the bible, the Old Testament is a Jewish handbook not Christian and  yes; the Old Testament implies that men should not sleep with men and women should not sleep with women. Sounds like an issue if your Jewish to me. But let me ask those spouting marriage is only between a man and a woman and Gays should not have equal rights. Ok, the Old Testament states this but there are also hundreds of other Jewish laws in the Old Testament and the only one I hear is about gays marriage… What’s up with that?  Are you all enjoying your ham sandwiches? Resting on Sunday?

Here’s a few from the Old Testament to work on before proudly spotting you a Christian and telling gays they cannot marry or they are not to have the same rights as heterosexuals.

To learn Torah and to teach it (Deut. 6:7),

To affix the mezuzah to the door posts and gates of your house (Deut. 6:9),

Not to cherish hatred in one’s heart (Lev. 19:17),

Not to refrain from maintaining a poor man and giving him what he needs (Deut. 15:7),

To give charity according to one’s means (Deut. 15:11),

There are 613 laws according to http://www.bibleheadquarters.org/THE613LAWSoftheOLDTESTAMENT.html

Comment after Conservative Quoted founding fathers

6 Aug

Lest we forget you are quoting men with exceptional talent an ability. I sure don’t disagree with the quotes and I find them inspirational.

We are not all born equal but in this country we are afforded freedoms not found elsewhere. “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence and considered by some [by whom?] as part of one of the most well crafted, influential sentences in the history of the English language. The phrase is meant to exemplify the “inalienable rights” with which all human beings are endowed by their creator and for the protection of which they institute governments. (wiki)

These “inalienable rights” in our society for those in need are carried out though entitlements – though the very word “entitlement” conjures up a negative perception of the word for most people, myself included. What’s the answer? Remove those breaking the law in order to receive the benefits. They are the virus in the entitlement programs and they need to be removed. The programs are fine, the people are not.